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Linux-Activists Digest #732, Volume #3            Mon, 7 Dec 92 18:45:22 EST

Contents:
  Re: What *doesnt* work under linux (James Michael Chacon)
  Re: Can't set line in Kermit, ttys0&1 permissions problem (James Michael Chacon)
  Macintosh format disks (T.J.R. Cutts)
  Re: can't startx as non-root (James Michael Chacon)
  Re: [Q] X problem - what does "cannot set default font path" mean? (Peter MacDonald)
  What could/should I have done? HD & Trident 8900 (Vern Nichols)
  Re: Someone help me with these please? (svga mode at bootup, lilo, X) (Johan Myreen)
  X / Enhanced VGA Local Bus ET4000 (FRANK NEEDHAM)
  X / Enhanced VGA Local Bus ET4000 (FRANK NEEDHAM)
  SLS (of 12/5/92) - ???/comments (bob myers)
  SLIP/PPP port info wanted (Gord Vreugdenhil)
  Dos and Linux? (Edsel Adap)
  Proposal for debug Xlinux.8514 (Stan Erwin)
  UNIX (USL vs UC-B and BSD, Inc) (Sandra Chang)
  Are people still having problems with PS/2 mouse? (Rob Levin)
  Thanks again to developers! (Rob Levin)
  LILO or kernel problem, 0.98pl6 (Rob Levin)
  Readership report for November 92 (Rob Levin)
  Re: HELP!!!  CAN'T START X -- ALSO MINICOM DUMPS CORE (Kevin Cummings)
  quicken and dos emulation (Byong Pak)
  term (Grant Taylor)
  Re: Linux problem on 386-40 AMD (Ed Saffle)

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From: [e-mail] (James Michael Chacon)
Subject: Re: What *doesnt* work under linux
Date: 7 Dec 1992 14:36:35 -0600

[e-mail] (Rick Kelly) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Rick Miller, Linux Device Registrar) writes:
>>[e-mail] (Crunchy Frog) writes:
>>>Okay, I have read the FAQ and discovered what works (GNU stuff, X,
>>>TeX, etc).  I also know that some things aren't there yet (tape devices
>>>and the rest).  What I want to know is, is there any software that people
>>>just *can't* get up and running under Linux?  I ask this because there
>>>is stuff I am interested in running (I don't have a system yet) but it
>>>isn't on the 'runable list'.  This means nothing of course, I am just
>>>curious to see if there is a 'not-runable' list.
>>
>>Yes, there is.  So far, it has one item on it...
>>
>>                      "emulation of protected-mode stuff".
>>
>>What this means is:
>>
>>      Even though there's a DOS emulation package, and even if it were
>>      to be made to *work* for more than just small *.COM programs, you
>>      just can't (reasonably) emulate operation in 386 protected mode.
>>
>>This is due to the design of the processor chip itself.


>So shared memory, semaphores, and msg passing now exist for Linux?

>--

>Rick Kelly     [e-mail]        unixland!rmkhome!rmk    [e-mail]

Semaphores, and msg queues exist in ALPHA testing currently. They can be gotten
from tsx-11.mit.edu in the pub/linux/patches directory in the ipc.tar.Z file.

You would have to do some patching to get it to work on the current kernel
though. Shared memory is being worked upon by the author currently.

James

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From: [e-mail] (James Michael Chacon)
Subject: Re: Can't set line in Kermit, ttys0&1 permissions problem
Date: 7 Dec 1992 14:43:33 -0600

[e-mail] (Lenny Jacobs) writes:


>I'm using Linux 0.97 p2 and I can't use Kermit from any user other
>than root. When I try to set line to ttys0 or ttys1 I get "Can't
>open connection: operation not permitted. It seems that although
>/dev/ttys2 and /dev/ttys3 are owned by bin, group tty; /dev/ttts0
>and /dev/ttys1 are owned by root, group root. Also ttys2 and 3 are
>marked read,write by user, group and other but ttys0 and 1 are
>marked read, write by user and write only by group and other. The
>system won't let me change the permissions to read, write for all
>on these devices even though I'm logged in as root. How can
>I change these permissions?
>--
>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
>|    <-> lenny <-> [e-mail] <-> [e-mail] <->     |
>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+

What do mean when you said it wont let you change the permissions? What
error messages does it give you?
Try this and tell me what it says: chmod 777 /dev/ttys0

If you do that as root, you shouldn't have any problems changing the
permissions.

James

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From: [e-mail] (T.J.R. Cutts)
Subject: Macintosh format disks
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1992 19:23:42 GMT

It is my eventual aim to have my Linux setup running a suite of DNA sequence
analysis programs for use by my research group.  This is currently being done on
Macs used as terminals onto remote Unix boxes.  Within six months we will have an
ethernet and I hope to connect the box up to the rest of the world!  So now you
know the background, and here is the problem:  We have huge amounts of data being
put onto Macintosh floppies, later uploaded (slowly!) to Unix machines.  Ideally
I would love to be able to shove the mac disk into my PC and type

mount [blah blah] -t applemac

and copy them straight onto the Linux machine.  Are there any plans afoot to
allow Linux to read Mac format disks?
--

-- Tim.

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From: [e-mail] (James Michael Chacon)
Subject: Re: can't startx as non-root
Date: 7 Dec 1992 14:50:21 -0600

[e-mail] (Isaac Wong) writes:

>when i startx as non-root, i get this:


>giving up.
>xinit:  Invalid argument (errno 22):  unable to connect to X server
>xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.


>what does that mean? please help.

Check to make sure xterm and the X386 binary are setuid root.
If you ls -l them you should see:
-rwsr-xr-x  1 root      wheel   123908 Dec 5 23:33 xterm
-rwsr-xr-x  1 root      wheel   893956 Dec 5 23:33 X386

The group can be different depending on how you installed everything.
The main thing, is that the s is there on the 4th character.

If it isn't, do the next 2 commands:
chmod 4755 /usr/X386/bin/xterm
chmod 4755 /usr/X386/bin/X386

That should fix any problems. Oh yea, make sure /tmp has the right permissions
also. It should be read-writable by anyone with the sticky bit set also.

Do a chmod 1777 /tmp to make sure.

James

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From: pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald)
Subject: Re: [Q] X problem - what does "cannot set default font path" mean?
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 92 19:49:15 GMT

In article <gordon.723741298@ningaui> [e-mail] (Gordon Royle) writes:
>
>Having finally found a version of X386 that supports the Trident tvga8900
>chipset, I have moved on to a more subtle problem.
>
>The command startx clears the screen, puts up a fuzzy noisy reddish
>rectangle for 1-2 seconds and then returns to text mode.
>
>By using "startx 2> errors" I get some feedback as to what is happening.
>
>       - it detects the chipset
>       - it finds the clocks
>       - it observes that because chipset != et4000  the SpeedUp code
>               is modified
>
>       THEN, it says
>
>       cannot set default font path '/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/misc/'

I have found that using compressed fonts was a big mistake.  Just do:

        cd /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
        chmod u+w *
        mkfontdir
        cd /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
        chmod u+w *
        mkfontdir

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From: [e-mail] (Vern Nichols)
Subject: What could/should I have done? HD & Trident 8900
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1992 21:02:53 GMT

Last night I decided to go ahead a trust a hard drive I picked up
so I would have room for X and I ran into a few problems which I
solved via the painful/kludge route, now I want to know if there
was a better way.

First off, I am using an adaptec RLL cotroller with a 65 Meg hda
and I added a similiar 65 Meg hdb.

Problem One:
After low lever formating the new drive with the ROM routines on the
controller, I tried to boot linux to fdisk and mkfs it and it
would not boot due a kernal panic not able to mount /.  After
booting with the a1 and a2 disks, a "fdisk /dev/hda" then printing
the partition tabled showed the wrong number of heads/cyl/sectors.
If I went into the (expert/extended) fdisk options and changed
these back, then a verify reported ok, but this information was
not saved.

I solved the probelm by reformating the hda drive and reinstalling
the entire SLS distribution, updating the kernal, and spending
4 hours reconfiguring (who needs backups, I'll just reinstall - NOT).

So, once the hard disk geometry gets messed up, is there a way
to rewrite it?  Where is is stored?


Problem Two.
Before rebuilding the current kernel, I wanted to move /usr/src
to a partition on the new drive so a mounted that partition
on /mnt2 and moved all the files over there and deleted them
from hda but left the directory /usr/src.  I unmounted /mnt2
and tried to mount it as /usr/src but this yeiled PWD - directory
not found errors all over the place but did show the files.
I now mount it as /mnt2 and have a symbolic link from /usr/src to
/mnt2.  Is this the way it's done in unix?  What did I not do, or
do that I should not have if this is not the case.  After
installing X I will want to move some more direcories to partitions
on hdb so I need to know the "proper" way to do it if there is one.

Potential Problem Three.
I plan to attack installing X on a trident 8900C card tonight
so any/all advice or horror stories you have on this would
all be appreciated.  I plan to use the current x1-x8 disks from
SLS, anyone aware of any problems associated with them?

Thanks.
Vern Nichols
Secure Computing Corporation
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Johan Myreen)
Subject: Re: Someone help me with these please? (svga mode at bootup, lilo, X)
Date: 7 Dec 92 20:19:17 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Andy I. Liaw) writes:

>5. Most of the time if I hit return at boot up and choose the 80x30
>   svga mode, I get no keyboard input at the login prompt.  But
>   Sometimes it'll work.

I had that same problem, too. The problem was that the SVGA selection
apparently leaves some junk in the keyboard controller that nobody
reads, and the controller doesn't like this. So I added this little
function to boot/setup.S to flush the 8042 output register before
going into protected mode, and it definitely cured the problem.

-- Cut here --

*** setup.S.orig        Mon Dec  7 22:13:32 1992
--- setup.S     Mon Dec  7 22:16:43 1992
***************
*** 174,179 ****
--- 174,180 ----

  ! that was painless, now we enable A20

+       call    empty_8042_output
        call    empty_8042
        mov     al,#0xD1                ! command write
        out     #0x64,al
***************
*** 240,245 ****
--- 241,257 ----
        in      al,#0x64        ! 8042 status port
        test    al,#2           ! is input buffer full?
        jnz     empty_8042      ! yes - loop
+       ret
+
+ empty_8042_output:
+       .word   0x00eb,0x00eb
+       in      al,#0x64
+       test    al,#1
+       jz      exit_empty_8042_output
+       .word   0x00eb,0x00eb
+       in      al,#0x60
+       jmp     empty_8042_output
+ exit_empty_8042_output:
        ret

  getkey:

-- Cut here too --

--
Johan Myreen
[e-mail]

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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x,comp.sysv386
From: [e-mail] (FRANK NEEDHAM)
Subject: X / Enhanced VGA Local Bus ET4000
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1992 21:05:30 GMT

Hi all,

In my story of working towards having a desktop pc running Linux/X/TCP/IP a
new twist has developed that now has to be dealt with.

It seems that when ordering my pc some weeks ago there was misunderstanding
between myself and the co. who sent me the pc. Thinking that a Tseng Labs
ET4000 card was being sent along with the pc, all seemed well. Well, it turns
out they sent me the Enhanced VGA et4000 local bus (I did know it was local
bus).

This may not have turned out to be a potential problem, but after reading the
modegen.txt, modeDB.txt, and the card manual more closely it became clear that
this card has the clock generator chip. Now, this clock generator is mentioned
as being a problem because the clock dots continually chang and this, of course
causes problems with using X. I suppose this an insurmountable problem because
one has to have access to program source to be able to use the card effective-
ly, right?

When my mistake in the ordering became fully realized, a call to the co. was
placed and, after some discussion, he agreed to send me a 2-the-MAX VGA 4000
card. We agreed that after trying out the other card I could send back the one
not needed and the difference would be credited to me, if there is any.

Is it hopeless to try to use the local bus card with the clock generator or
woould I be better off just using the 2-the-MAX card? What are the differences
in performance with the local bus with X and without local bus? Is it enough
to matter?

One more thing :-), the modegen.txt file mentions running 'startx.notcp 2>
clocks.X. After doing this, all that happens is that a file is produced that
says "startx.notcp: command not found". Is this because of this card and X
not recognizing it?

Thanks for your patience with this long winded post, :-).
-frank

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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x,comp.sysv386
From: [e-mail] (FRANK NEEDHAM)
Subject: X / Enhanced VGA Local Bus ET4000
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1992 21:08:44 GMT

Hi all,

In my story of working towards having a desktop pc running Linux/X/TCP/IP a
new twist has developed that now has to be dealt with.

It seems that when ordering my pc some weeks ago there was misunderstanding
between myself and the co. who sent me the pc. Thinking that a Tseng Labs
ET4000 card was being sent along with the pc, all seemed well. Well, it turns
out they sent me the Enhanced VGA et4000 local bus (I did know it was local
bus).

This may not have turned out to be a potential problem, but after reading the
modegen.txt, modeDB.txt, and the card manual more closely it became clear that
this card has the clock generator chip. Now, this clock generator is mentioned
as being a problem because the clock dots continually chang and this, of course
causes problems with using X. I suppose this an insurmountable problem because
one has to have access to program source to be able to use the card effective-
ly, right?

When my mistake in the ordering became fully realized, a call to the co. was
placed and, after some discussion, he agreed to send me a 2-the-MAX VGA 4000
card. We agreed that after trying out the other card I could send back the one
not needed and the difference would be credited to me, if there is any.

Is it hopeless to try to use the local bus card with the clock generator or
woould I be better off just using the 2-the-MAX card? What are the differences
in performance with the local bus with X and without local bus? Is it enough
to matter?

One more thing :-), the modegen.txt file mentions running 'startx.notcp 2>
clocks.X. After doing this, all that happens is that a file is produced that
says "startx.notcp: command not found". Is this because of this card and X
not recognizing it?

Thanks for your patience with this long winded post, :-).
-frank

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From: [e-mail] (bob myers)
Subject: SLS (of 12/5/92) - ???/comments
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1992 18:20:41 GMT

I've pulled down a complete set of disks from tsx-11 Friday afternoon.  After
going through the install on Saturday, I have a few questions/comments:

1)  Any idea when pl6 will be incorporated?  Or will it be after a few of
the bug report(s) come whizzing by the newsgroup...?

2)  Seems like the 'adduser' (and associated commands) got renamed to
    'useradd' (and alike).  I had a little fun trying to add another user;
    seems that when i typed in 'useradd bob', the command took off...but
    didn't request an initial password.  I looked in /etc/shadow, and saw
    a '!' in the password field.  Does this mean that a sysadmin would have
    to do the useradd, then a password uid to set the login?

3)  related issue; the home directory was not created for bob; i.e.
    /home/bob didn't exist.  had to create it manually...

4)  I haven't looked yet, but has the latest version of lilo been
    ported in?

5)  I'm seeing a 'can't exec /etc/umount -- trying umount' msg show up
    when I issue shutdown.  a missing link?
--
=================================================================
Bob Myers                        | You gotta watch out for those
Shyguy's AT&T SVR4 Unix/Uniboard | shy guys....you never know
Email:[e-mail] | what they're thinking..:)

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From: [e-mail] (Gord Vreugdenhil)
Subject: SLIP/PPP port info wanted
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1992 21:02:46 GMT


I noticed that in the ALPHA directory at tsx-11 there is some SLIP stuff
under the private directory.  I am quite interested in getting SLIP
running between my home linux box and a Sun 670.  The sun does have
SLIP and PPP sources on it, though only SLIP is installed (I think).

1) What is the status of the ALPHA/SLIP code?
2) If no one is actively working on this, I might be able to find some
   time to do it.
3) Is anyone working on PPP?

Gord Vreugdenhil
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Edsel Adap)
Subject: Dos and Linux?
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1992 21:07:29 GMT

I'm new to the linux world and just finished installing linux on one of my
PC's and am wondering how to run that horrible MS-DOS operating system on
top of LINUX.  Is this possible?  The doc's say something about a dos
emulator but I'm not sure how to do it.

Also, I have linux booting off a floppy.  How can I make this boot from the
HD?

Please e-mail responses because I don't read this news group that often.
Internet address:       [e-mail]
Sorry, if this is a FAQ.

Edsel
--
"That girl is one of the least benightedly unintelligent organic life
forms it has been my profound lack of pleasure not to be able to avoid
meeting."
________________________________________________________________________________
|    Procrastination is my sin          | Edsel Adap
|    It brings me naught but sorrow     | Computer Science / Mathematics Major
|    I know that I should stop it       | Andrews University
|    In fact I will -- Tomorrow!        |
|                         -Gloria Pitzer| [e-mail]
================================================================================

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From: [e-mail] (Stan Erwin)
Subject: Proposal for debug Xlinux.8514
Date: 7 Dec 92 21:33:33 GMT


After having Linux for more than a month, I still haven't
been able to get X working with my ATI Ultra card. When
I type startx, I simply get the message "giving up".

I would like to propose compiling a debug version of
Xlinux.8514 that could be run on the debugger and/or
with more informative diagnostic statements than
"giving up". I got the 8514-src file but it said to use
xsrc1.1 file which is not on any archive site anymore.

What do I need to compile a new executable ?  I have the
current SLS from wuarchive.  I think this would be a
worthwhile project and maybe compile a debug version of
X386 too. Many of the questions posted on comp.os.linux
consist of "X won't start and I don't have a clue"

By the way when I first got Xlinux.8514 it complained
that it couldn't find libc.sh.2.2.2 and libm.sh.2.2.2 .
I thought, " OK I'll link those to the current libs".
That eliminated the messages, but leads to the "giving up"
message. J.Chacon's post said that the 2.2.2 libs could
be found at nic.funet.fi in pub/OS/Linux/bin/gcc/.OLD,
I found libc there but not libm. I don't know if
this is related to X failing or not.  I am using the
Xconfig which came with Xlinux.8514, with the changes
suggested in README and README.2nd. I have 16MB ram so
I haven't bothered with swap space.  I don't think any
swapping is necessary for X to start up, but could it
cause a failure anyway? I also think much better
documentation is needed on where the mysterious numbers
in Xconfig come from. They don't seem to correspond to
anything in the video card or monitor manuals. I am a Unix
system administrator and programmer, but I don't know
much about video cards (and don't really want to know).

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From: [e-mail] (Sandra Chang)
Subject: UNIX (USL vs UC-B and BSD, Inc)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1992 23:17:09 GMT

john travis
(using a frien's account--so don't laugh at my username :)

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From: [e-mail] (Rob Levin)
Subject: Are people still having problems with PS/2 mouse?
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1992 10:48:48 -0800

 JM> Everybody struggling with keyboard lockups or any other problems
with
 JM> the PS/2 mouse with a recent kernel version: please speak up!

No problems with the actual *USE* of the mouse as of pl4, *HOWEVER*--if
I terminate a program using the mouse via control C, my keyboard goes
away, permanently.  If I trap SIGINT and terminate normally, the problem
does not occur.  And, I have managed to figure out via experimentation,
that the keyboard is all that goes bye-bye, not the rest of the system,
which runs fine....


Rob L.


 * Origin: Via the Annex in Victoria, TX (1:3802/217)


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From: [e-mail] (Rob Levin)
Subject: Thanks again to developers!
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1992 11:00:54 -0800

Werner A., Linus, et. al.:

 WA> I'll release a version of LILO that handles those things correctly
 WA> later this weekend.

Bless you, Werner.  Thanks for all your excellent work!  The one thing I
have come to be able to depend on (and it's certainly not my right to
*expect* it!) is that, when there is a problem reported, it will get
fixed in a pretty derned timely fashion.

My congratulations and gratitude again, to you and all the Linux
development crew....  :-)


Rob L.

 * Origin: Via the Annex in Victoria, TX (1:3802/217)


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From: [e-mail] (Rob Levin)
Subject: LILO or kernel problem, 0.98pl6
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1992 13:56:02 -0800

Werner or Linus,

I'm having the following problems with pl5 and pl6 on my CompuAdd
Express 425CXL.  It's a Cyrix 486slc machine, with math coprocessor, 8MB
of RAM, VGA-like display, 120MB hard drive (IDE), two serial ports (one
of them a modem, ttys0 and ttys1).

The last release I ran successfully was from SLS; it was pl4.  The pl5 I
tried is from H.J. Lu's new bootable root disk.  Lilo release is 6,
which I've been using prior to pl5 and pl6 of the kernel.

I want to stress that 0.98pl4 ran just fine on this computer, and
pl5/pl6 do not.  Anyway, THANKS for any help you can provide, and THANKS
MUCH FOR AN EXCELLENT PRODUCT.  :-)

Problems:

(1)  I've recompiled pl6 using the appropriate variable in the Makefile
to turn off keyboard locking, and it doesn't seem to work--numeric lock
stays on by default.  I've used this feature successfully from its
inception through 0.98pl4....

(2)  When I boot off the HLU bootable root floppy, the system comes up
fine.  When I set up to boot off the hard drive, I get "Unable to handle
kernel paging request at address..."  and a bunch of messages.

(3) When I compiled pl6, it seemed to boot fine off floppy several times
(though at one point, it started rebooting over and over again, early in
the boot load process).  It consistently bombs off when I set up this
new release to boot directly off the hard disk.  Below, I provide the
complete screen I get when I try to boot pl6 off the hard drive:

LILO Loading linux..
Unable to handle kernel paging request at address c000009e
Oops: 0000
EIP:    0008:00009C07
EFLAGS: 00010246
fs: 0017
base: C0000000, limit: 000A0000
Pid: 0, process nr: 0
20 69 6e 74 65 72 72 75 70 74
task[0] (swapper) killed: unable to recover
Kernel panic: Trying to free up swapper memory space
In swapper task - not syncing


Anyway, there you have it.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.


Rob L.

 * Origin: Via the Annex in Victoria, Texas (1:3802/217.13)


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From: [e-mail] (Rob Levin)
Subject: Readership report for November 92
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1992 10:53:28 -0800

 LT> From: [e-mail] (Linus Torvalds)

 LT> Ok, I still don't know if anybody wants to know, but I've been
doing
 LT> these edited reports now the last couple of months, so I'll
continue
 LT> until somebody yells "enough is enough".

I'm enjoying reading the little suckers, myself....  :-)


Rob L.


 * Origin: Via the Annex in Victoria, TX (1:3802/217)


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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Cummings)
Subject: Re: HELP!!!  CAN'T START X -- ALSO MINICOM DUMPS CORE
Date: 7 Dec 92 22:05:28 GMT

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (William T. O Connell) writes:
> I'm using the default xinitrc and xserverrc that comes with SLS.
> My configuration is:
>       486DX, 33mhz, 210Mb (/root 10MB, /usr 64MB, /tmp 5MB, swap 16MB),
>       4MB RAM (Once I'm sure I can get X running, I going to move to 8MB).

WHAT'S YOUR VIDEO CARD?????  X claimed it had 0K memory on it ....

=================================================================
Kevin J. Cummings                       ComputerVision Services
20 Briarwood Road                       500 Old Connecticut Path
Framingham, Mass.                       Framingham, Mass.

Home:  [e-mail] Work:  [e-mail]

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                  defense system SUCKS..."   --  War Games
=================================================================

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From: [e-mail] (Byong Pak)
Subject: quicken and dos emulation
Date: 7 Dec 92 21:31:13 GMT
Reply-To: [e-mail]


Has anyone gotten the dos emulation to work with quicken?  This would be all I
need right now to get rid of my dos partition forever.....


--
* Byong "the pakman" Pak             * These opinions are my own and do *
*        aka                         *   not reflect the opinions or    *
*  email:  [e-mail] *    policies of Amdahl Corp.      *
*  phone:  [phone]              *                                  *

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From: [e-mail] (Grant Taylor)
Subject: term
Date: 7 Dec 92 21:43:53 GMT

has anyone else had difficulties with term?  i haven't yet been able
to get it going well enough to allow any form of login from the remote
system to linux.  neither tredir or trsh will last long enough.  both
of these, and upload from linux->remote (and xconn) cause term to
freeze with an endless series of timeouts.  it seems as if any amount
of data trying to be sent more than a few chars at a time from linux
to the remote term either doesn't get sent or doesn't get acknowledged
by the remote term.

if anyone has had any experiences with something like this, please
tell me anything yuo know!  (i would kill to get my system receiving
telnets so i can tinker over the holidays...)

btw my remote system is a sparcstation of some sort running sunos4.1
everything on every end passes the `test' test, so i assume it's not a
compiler error but a timing prob or some such thing...

-grant

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#include<stdio.h> /* gcc this, and all your dreams will come true (maybe!) */
static int pp(char*a){int i=0;while(a[i])putchar(a[i++]-1);}main(){int a,b,c;
char *d[]={"ep","efbvy","epvhi","epf"},*i[]={"j","fzf","jhi"},*f[]={"G","Qi"}
;pp("Jo\x21nfnpsz\x21pg\x21Jttbd\x21 Btjnpw///");putchar('\n');putchar('\n');
for(a=0;a<2;a++)for(b=0;b<3;b++){for(c=0;c<4;c++){if(c==1)putchar('\t');pp(f
[a]);pp(i[b]);pp(d[c]);putchar('\t');if(a==0&&b==0&&(c==1||c==2))putchar('\t'
);}putchar('\n');}}  /* sorry kids, this one is only worth one bonus point */

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From: [e-mail] (Ed Saffle)
Subject: Re: Linux problem on 386-40 AMD
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1992 21:24:40 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jerry van Waardenberg) writes:
>I have almost the same configuration: 386/40 AMD, 8 Meg (4x9-chip 70ns and 4x
>3-chip 60 ns) and a 210 MB IDE harddisk. I have no problems at all! Maybe the
>problem is with the BIOS: I have an AMI BIOS (Date: somewhere in 1991, I don't
>know the exact date).

  Well, I have a 386-40 AMD with 8 megs of ram, all are 3-chip 70ns simms, a
120Meg and a 41Meg IDE hard disks  and AMI bios.  Linux does occasionally
(three times in the last month) give me a register dump.  It only does
it once, then continues with the loading.  No problems.  I have a bit of
trouble with the disk linux is on, so I thought it may be that.

*shrug*

Ed

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